"As your body needs food to survive, you also need sensory input to survive. And I know it sounds funny, but it's true because all of your senses work together and if they don't have what they need, there is failure. As some children have failure to thrive, you can have failure of the sensory systems. And it's honestly comes from not receiving that sensory input.

Speaker 1: How did we meet Lakikid? We met Lakikid in the beginning of our journey. My son was recently diagnosed with autism and we didn't even know what autism was. We didn't even know where to begin to even figure out how to help him. I ended up coming across to Lakikid through Facebook and Lakikid had introduced me to some products that have on the market. The first product that we received from Lakikid was the chairband. The chairband helped us tremendously because my son had very active feet and he liked to kick a lot . We place this at the bottom of the chair and my son was able to bounce his active feet on it. It actually came in two so i keep one of this in my purse so if we are out

Speaker 1: family members house at a restaurant out wherever it may be. I can put this on real quickly and my son can bounce away on the chair band, Wonderful product! The second product that I received from Lakikid was the wiggle seat. The wiggle seat combined with the chairband was a game changer for us. It was the first time that our family was able to eat together all at one place and my son was usually a runner. We've run laps throughout the house. It'd be quite stressful. It could be quite chaotic to get everybody to sit down at the table. That was the first time in a very, very long time that our family was able to sit together. Our family can have a meal. It was a huge milestone for our house. Lakikid also introduced us to a parent support group. It was a group of parent that understood It is a group of parents that I was for the first time completely transparent with people, genuinely supported us. They genuinely cared, they understood what the trials we were going through, they understood the ups and downs, everything that was going on, they have so much valuable knowledge and Lakikid was my beacon of light in the beginning and will continue to light for our family and you will always hold a special place in my heart. Yes, We all thank you very much Lakikid.

Speaker 2: Hi guys. So as you can see, Lakikid products have changed lives not only that but the support we give. I remember when she joined, she was one of our early members and has been with us ever since and we love her and appreciate her like we love and appreciate every single one of you. I just want to say hi to Amber, to Angela, to Amanda. Hi guys. And welcome Maria. Hi. So thank you all for joining us today and I'm really excited to break down more on a sensory diet with you guys. So welcome everyone to our show about a sensory diet. Now I want to explain something that most people don't understand. When I say sensory diet, I don't mean making sure your child has eight servings of fruit or vegetables, three servings of meat. Oh, so much milk. No, I mean the physical input that your child needs that anyone needs. If you think about it, we all need that physical input every day. Melinda, hi, welcome. You just missed it. We used your family's video tonight for our show.

Speaker 3: yeah,

Speaker 2: but we all need that physical input. I know when I'm upset I go to my husband and what do I do I get a hug because when he hugs me, it's, I get that physical input that calms me and that makes me feel better. So as your body needs food to survive, you also need sensory input to survive. And I know it sounds funny, but it's true because all of your senses work together and if they don't have what they need, there is failure. as some children have failure to thrive, you can have failure of the sensory systems. And it's honestly comes from not receiving that sensory input. If you look at babies that are born in other countries and put in orphanages that lay in a cot all day long and are handed a bottle when it's feeding time and they learn not to cry, they learn not to ask for things.

Speaker 2: They learn that they're their own only source of support. So these children are lacking this physical input and it really affects them. If you look at them later in life, it affects their social contents. It affects them emotionally, all over the board. They are now affected. So you don't want that to happen at home. You want to be proactive with your sensory input. So you want to give your child that sensory input before they struggle or have a meltdown. As you saw on Melinda's video today. she uses the chair band, which is one of my favorites because it is affordable, it's durable, easy to use. I can honestly throw this in the sink with my dirty dishes and wash it and it's clean. So I love this chair band. So Melinda uses it in a proactive manner. She has it on his chair for when he eats dinner for when he does homework.

Speaker 2: They bring it to grandma's house for dinner and she just slips it on the chair. So that as she says, his busy feet are constantly getting the input they need. So that is taking your sensory diet and making his sensory needs a priority and being proactive instead of reactive. So being proactive is giving them the sensory input they need before anything happens. Reactive is giving a sensory input after a meltdown or after a stressful moment. so really knowing the differences, huge and it's important. so I just want to say that Melinda, I agree Lackey, kid products have changed our home and our lives in a real quick, hi Riley. I love you to be good for grandma. Sorry. Riley's watching in the other room with grandma. Apparently

Speaker 2: now as sensory input is important at home where you see busy feed, as Melinda says, or children have the need to be hugged and squeeze to feel comforted, to feel calm and to get that input that they need. You need to have a sensory diet. At school. Now, how do I have a sensory diet set up for school Well, first you would, call an IEP meeting. Most of you know an IEP meeting is an individualized education plan. So this plan is built just for your child and their needs. So they tailor each, each IEP to each child. Now when we do IEP meetings, I make sure that I talk about the products I want her to use Riley's classroom. this year actually has the Japan's on the chairs. We have balanced ball chairs, which she uses for free time for reading time. When a child is struggling, she sends their desk chair away and puts them on one of these. Speaker 2: So these balance ball chairs, they had the legs and they sit stationary on the floor and your child can rock, they can bounce, they can do whatever movement they need. No. Another product that Riley's teacher has and loves, especially for Floortime is our wiggle seat, which again, Melinda mentioned in her video. This thing has two different sides, one with more porcupine, bumps and Wilma almost softer little bumps. This can be inflated as much or as little as you want for that needed sensory input. So do I feel bad asking my teachers to put Riley's sensory needs in her IEP No, because they make her learn better. She's able to focus more, less meltdowns, less anxiety. So in all honesty, when I made sure her sensory needs are taken care of, her teacher has easier time teaching her because she is ready to listen because she has that input. So when you meet with your IEP team, I always meet with our, OT, our teacher, our principal, and we sit down and usually someone from the school board and we sit down and we make a list of everything.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And we actually have another lady, who comes into the meetings. She is over all special needs for the elementary school and she kind of helps set up a plan. She takes into consideration everything and finds a way to make everything work. So first you would go to your IEP meeting and you would discuss what you want, why you want it, and how you feel it will help your child. Now Maria, I will have Jason posts the link to our online store or to Amazon where you can get our Lackey kid ball chair. but we do sell these and I will get the link to Maria tonight so that you can purchase your own ball chair. I'm telling you this thing is incredible. As you see right below your comment Maria, it's lakikid.com and that is where you can go to purchase not only the ball chair but every single item that wacky kid carries. Now I want to talk about functioning better. So if you want to give your child a positive day, then have them do sensory input before school. For Riley, she wears a compression vest. She before school will sometimes bounce on the ball chair, she'll watch her cartoons while she moves, stuff like that. So she's getting ready for school, but she's also taking care of her sensory needs.

Speaker 2: and by giving that positive sensory input, you take away the need for them to go to school and get that negative sensory input. That's those negative behaviors that are sensory-based that get our kids in trouble. Quite often. So I would add more positive sensory input that would remove the negative and when they start screaming or hitting, I would give them something more positive to do. If they are hitting, you can use our fidget marble maze. You simply your fingers through and push the marble through the little maze. It folds up really tiny, literally it fits in your pocket. So this is a great thing for when your child hits. Another great thing for when the hit is our writeable lap pad. I don't know if you recognized in the video, Melinda's younger son was playing with one beside her husband and all you do is you simply use your water pen and you draw on it and it shows color and then when it dries it goes back to white.

Speaker 2: So you can use any of these products to give that sensory input when they're doing negative behaviors like hitting, just anything that takes their hands away. One thing I love that Riley school is very big on and I wish all schools would do it, is they take what's called brain breaks. Whenever the teacher notices that the class is lagging, getting loud, getting busy, not listening. She stops the class, put some on the carpet. And yes, she has children that she puts this down on the carpet and the child sits on it. And if it gives them more sensory input while they're on the carpet, she plays funny little songs. what does the Fox say or the, I can't remember all of them, but they use different popular songs and they break them down to short little parts and they have them do the physical motion and sing at the same time so that they are getting that sensory input given to them during this brain break and the whole class benefits because the entire class does it.

Speaker 2: So that's a really important part of Riley's day because you can tell the days that they have been, a different teacher, a substitute teacher on those days, they don't always get the brain breaks as much or if any as they would with their regular teacher. So you notice that when she comes home, she's more agitated. She's more emotional, she's more difficult to deal with. So it takes a lot of the sensory input from me when she gets home to help her get back to where she should be when if she does, if she follows the sensory input at school, does the brain breaks, uses the equipment as needed, then her coming home is a lot easier and a lot less stressful for all of us. Now, I do want to say that when children do not receive the sensory input they need, they tend to score lower on test scores and they struggle more in the classroom setting. That is because their needs are not being met.

Speaker 3: Wow.

Speaker 2: Think of it this way. If you're starving, like absolutely starving, can you sit down and think and write me a 500 word essay right now You haven't eaten at all today, but I want you to write me a 500 word essay. It's impossible, right

Speaker 2: well, it's impossible for our children to focus and be attentive when they're not getting any sensory breaks. So yes, they're important not only at home, but at school. So you need to work with your OT if you have one on different things that they can do because there is a lot more than just what I'm going through tonight. if you follow us next week we will have Matt and he will actually be in his sensory gym and with one of his kiddos and showing us the proper movements, the proper things and ways to help our children and be proactive with our children in their sensory needs. Now again, there's a billion ways to get sensory input. I've only gotten over a few Matt. Next week we're going to focus directly on the sensory input and ways to receive sensory input. So again, watch catch us next week because we will actually be doing all different sensory input activities and showing them and explaining why they are beneficial.

Speaker 3: Okay.

Speaker 2: Now if you actually look around you, most environments provide their own sources of sensory input. When Riley goes to gym, those a rock climbing wall so she can get that for sensory input in her classroom. Again, they use wiggle seats, they use ball chairs, they use fidget bands. So she gets that. They use brain breaks when we play outside. There's a lot throwing that basketball in the house. Something as simple as Riley is obsessed with Swift ring the floor, you know that Swiffer wet jet type thing. We give her one of those and she goes nuts. She also loves scrubbing Bay sports to her. That is positive sensory input and to me it's free cha chores being done by my child without her complaining. So it's a win win for me.

Speaker 2: so check around you and look around where you are for natural sources of sensory input like at the park they can run, they can climb, they can jump, they can swing, they can slide. So many different places do have that sensory input you can get now. Yes you can use fancy equipment. of course I showed you Lackey kids sows, tons of different equipment that you can pick from. We are actually, I just found out this week, we are working on our product launches for this coming year for 2020 and I am so excited that we have some really great products coming up and I can't wait to share them with you. Now another product is the weighted neck pillow.

Speaker 2: It's about three and a half pounds and it gives us sensory input. You can use it while traveling. You can use it at a restaurant, you can use it at home, can use during dinner. It really works. I have a muscular degeneration disease and we actually found out that after treatment when my head is flopping, I can't hold it up straight. We put this on and I kind of lean back and it really holds my head up. So it has dual purpose for us. And yes, as my husband says, he loves that for Riley, her sensory input is well washing the floors, washing the baseboards. She loves it and we benefit. She benefits swords. A wonderful, wonderful thing. Now, if anyone has any questions, please let me know now before the show ends.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: so I want to kind of just go a little bit more again, if you have any questions about any of this. This is our discussion all month long, so don't worry. Next week we will be showing different ways of giving sensory input and the week after will be an open question and answer session with myself and Matt and we will be sitting down in tackling those sensory diet questions. As

Speaker 3: Matt says, U S it not so much a sensory diet as it is a sensory plan. Now, one of the things that popped up that's true is did you know that you could have a sensory motor breaks are opportunities written included as your child's IEP And that's what I'm saying, guys, go to their IEP meetings and have them put that your child needs the wiggle seat when they are getting antsy. Your child needs a fidget band because like Melinda son, he has Weigley bouncy feet. So those fidget bands on his school chair take away the bouncy feet and they're fairly silent.

Speaker 2: so you can have sensory motor breaks or opportunities put into your IEP. a sensory motor break would look something like your child would move to another area and see how they react and they would play with things. I have walked in to Riley's classroom and there was child struggling and they grabbed one of these are wiggle seats and he actually laid on it

Speaker 2: and he actually, he loves it, the feeling on his face. So he had it like this, like a a pillow. So that was written into his IEP that he could have that needed item and he could do that when needed. No question from the audience, how do I get it that incorporated into her IEP when they don't see her autism. Alicia that's kind of a double edge sword and it's kind of funny to me. She has an IEP but she doesn't have autism. first I would ask their grounds for giving her an IEP because they actually have to follow certain guidelines to receive an IEP. And generally autism is the reason your child gets an IEP. So that really kind of throws me off. I'm not quite sure how Speaker 2: they do that when they don't see that she has autism. but you have to remember that you are part of the IEP team. Every single member in the IEP team has a say and everything, but ultimately every member has to sign off including mom and dad or just mom or just that. So when you get to the IEP meeting, make them sit and write it in. Like Melinda is saying right now, she took the wiggle seat and the chair back to her last IEP meeting, she let the teacher get to know the product. She let the teachers see the product that at work try it herself and realize that it is actually beneficial. So the main thing Alicia, is they need to see that these sensory breaks are beneficial to your child. if they don't have autism, say they have her listed under something completely different.

Speaker 2: Well, even ADHD needs sensory breaks. Even neurotypical kids, our 15 year old needs sensory breaks. So it doesn't matter if they don't see their autism, as long as, as they see the need for sensory breaks solely HSA, reach out to me please. And we will go over this more in depth because kind of questioning the IEP that you have as a whole. And I'd really, really like to discuss that more. No, Megan says my daughter has sensory timeouts and is allowed to do a variety of activities to get the wiggles out. I'm an advantage. My husband is a special education advocate, but most parents do not know what kind of services their children are entitled to. Megan, you are so correct. Megan, can you actually reach out to us at lucky kid We would love to talk to you and your husband. I'm all for advocating for our children and I would love the chance to sit down with a advocate and really go over things and teach parents what your child needs and how to get what they need.

Speaker 2: So Megan, please reach out to us. We would love to talk to you. Melinda, I guess I talked about you having a chair Benz at the IEP. We were able, Angela says, we're able to get sensor breaks in that were under the ADH D label. Yes. that's why I questioned Megan on do they have her on the ADHD label because you can get it for that. You can get a percent for processing disorder. there's almost always a way to get it for any label. You just have to kind of know. And that's why I would love to sit down with an advocate and teach you guys your rights and teach you guys how to get what your child needs in school. This week, I actually spent this week and last week I spent quite a bit of time with parents teaching them their rights because they don't know, every school board, every school has a book of rights by law at every single IEP meeting, they must offer to give you one, take it, memorize it, highlight the important parts that pertain to your child and yourself. That is your book of rights. That is how you advocate for your child. Angela, I would love if you can find older IDPs and let me see how they were done so that I could explain

Speaker 2: how they work. Okay. So let's go to the next question. I'm sorry, I'm not even gonna try and Brown's her name because I will murder it. But how long could my son get older school Well, here's the thing. OT is very limited due to limited resources and limited finances. So most kids receive approximately 30 minutes a week of OT. Speaker 2: Now your child can graduate from therapy. Jason recently, GRA his son recently graduated from, I believe it was speech and I know it was ABA. They came to the end of the road with how far they could help him grow and now they feel he can do this on his own. So because he did so well with them and he thrived and he learned the tools to help himself, he can graduate. So your son should be receiving OT in school if needed. Not all autistic children qualify for OT. It depends on the child. I can honestly tell you that out of Riley's special needs preschool, we had six children and only four of them went to OT. I believe. So not every autistic child is going to qualify for OT, but if you do qualify for OT, then yes, they can eventually cut it off when your child masters all of the goals and there are no new goals that need to be set.

Speaker 2: Now, Angela says, and I agree with Angela so much on this, let your child see you advocate. It teaches them self advocacy. I agree fully. I tell Riley what I'm going to her school for. I tell her what my goals are. I tell her later what the school's goals are. She is learning to tell her teacher now what she needs and why she needs it. So that is a key to everything. So now I'm sorry to say folks that we are at the end of the time we have this week. Don't forget, like I said earlier, Matt will be joining us next week

Speaker 2: and he will be talking more about sensory plans and how to build one for your child. I'm just going to answer this one last question. He's going to middle school next year but wants to graduate from OT. well that's something that honestly an IEP meeting is going to benefit from. And because he's moving from middle or elementary to middle, you're going to have a transition meeting. It's going to be how to move him from elementary to middle without a lot of stress and the smoothest as possible. So talk to your IEP team and see if he is able to graduate from OT and what needs to be done for him to graduate. Maybe he's not quite ready yet, but maybe you can work with him this summer and get him to the point where he no longer needs OT. So again, join us next week we will be talking with Matt and building an OT sensory plan for every child and let them learn.

Speaker 2: Let you learn better ways to help your child. So I want to thank everyone for joining us today. Remember if you want to subscribe to live updates, all you have to do is type the number five number five folks in the comments section now, and you will receive live updates of when I go live. I try and do it every Thursday at 7:00 PM some days. Life happens. So if you subscribe by pressing the number five, typing the number five to subscribe, you will actually know if I do a show on an off day, which I have been known to do quite often. Also, don't forget that we have our parents' support group, which Melinda spoke about in the beginning of our show. we'd love to have you join us. It is a place to get support. People understand you. We are talking about pairing up parents as teams to help each other through this journey.

Speaker 2: It takes a village to raise a child. And for me, I have my tribe, I have my people that understand me, that helped me and that get me through my rough days and celebrate my good days with me. So while thank you all for subscribing today, I think this is awesome. I see my mother and my husband have decided to jump on these subscription bandwagon. I'm getting a thumbs up from my husband and he's patting himself on the back. So thank you all for joining us. I haven't, we had an amazing week. Don't forget it. We'll see you next Thursday at 7:00 PM. I will be live with Matt going over sensory plans for everyone. Until next time, remember, empower support and educate.

We are lucky to have Matt Solan, founder of Sensory Fitness, and his two sons, Willie and Reggie, to show us the activities! "A lot of times when my boy come home, what I like to do is to give him a lot of movement. So before we start, it's important to know your kid and your kid's sensory needs. That's always going to help you build your sensory diet...After school kids just need to either decompress or just kind of get it all out....See you guys do a couple of somersaults. Let's see some log rolls, its a normal roll. That's right buddy...." -Matt

Speaker 1: And we are actually going to show you different things for use at home to help your child sensory diet. But first let's watch a quick video from our sponsor, Lakikid this is a fidget tool. If you've got a kid that really struggles with keeping their hands to themselves, this is awesome. This is a marble maze. So they sewed a maze in here and let me see if I can find the marble. Oh, it's right here in the piece. So you're gonna push it along, squeeze it out and go along the maze. And I can attest to this being really fun and kind of addicting in a good way. It keeps your hands busy and keeps you wanting to do stuff. each side has kind of a different texture to it. So those tactile seekers are really gonna enjoy it. It's also, believe it or not, proprioceptive input as you squeeze that ball along cause it's kind of tight. It's doable, but it's tight.

Speaker 1: Okay. So I want to welcome all of you back to today's show. I am so excited. We are here with Matt. I want to welcome everyone. Melissa, Melinda. Hi. And welcome. I can't wait to do today's show with you. I want to thank you all for joining us. as you know, this month we have really been focusing on a sensory diet. And today I am lucky enough that Matt is on the show with us, with his two sons. Willie and Reggie. Oh, there is Willie right there and Matt. Oh, and there's Reggie and other side. So Matt, I'm going to kind of give it to you and see what you got to say.

Speaker 2: Okay. This should be interesting. I got my two boys, so jenn and i has been talking about sensory diet that this should be really great. This is gonna be, organized chaos. So, so my boys just came home from school. Okay. We've been talking about doing a sensory diets, what they are and how they actually work and things you can do to incorporate into your sensory diet. So my boys been in school all day, so they'd been getting off the, or they didn't take the bus. They actually picked them up. But normally they come home on the bus. And a lot of times when, when my guys come home, what I like to do is like to give him a lot of movement. So before we start just, it think it's important to know your kid, your kiddo sensory needs and that that's always going to help you kind of build your sensory diet.

Speaker 2: I know my guys, I think of it as like getting the wiggles out. So I'll set up some swings. I have the benefit of having a sensory gym in my house, so that's cool. Not everybody has that. So what I'm going to show you is, most of the stuff you can do from your house. Oh yeah, it was Williams. Reggie, most of the stuff you can will, you'll be able to do in your house. I, I do have some things I have from suspension just to kind of show a point. But, so if you have a swing, this is one thing you can do, whether it's inside the house or outside, whatever. It's a great way to get a lot of that, get a lot of that vestibular input. again, this goes back to knowing your kid. Maybe this isn't the activity but getting movement. I see more often than none. afterschool kids just need to either decompress and like cut all stuff out or just kind of get it all out. So there's, this is a great way to get it all out. Okay. if you don't have a swing, it doesn't have to be this. So I'm going to use my, well, this works. All right. Fruits, nuts.

Speaker 2: Good job, boys. All right. Okay. So getting the vestibular input remembers getting that head to move, right So, any ways like, see you guys do a couple of somersaults. Whoa, let's go back. Go back. let's see some log rolls, its a normal roll. That's right buddy. Roll back. Okay. So there's no equipment you can just do whatever. It's just getting that head to move here. I got some Lakikid balance balls. I like to turn them upside down. Let's see. You guys do some bouncing straight here. But again, just some ways to get a lot of input. They're getting a lot of that. that vertical bouncing is great way to get into circle back and go back that.

Speaker 2: Okay. And if you don't have Lakikid balls or yoga ball or a bouncy ball, or even a place to roll, just running crashes and awesome way to do that. Bruce, can you guys Chuck your balls over there Sweet. Hey, let's see. Stand over here. Give me a line right here. Wait. Oh, sorry. It's back up. Back up, back up. Well, the first crash or what's the next, , Oh, maybe not. Somersault, running and running and crashing. You can do into your couch, off your couch. So this is a great way to get vestibular input as you can tell vestibular input. Well, I didn't mean my alert level goes up, so I'm going to try to bring it back in a second here. So let's see. generally folk kind of want to pacing them. I'm going to add some weight. Okay. All right. Freeze your on your nuts. All right. Good job. So moving weights is, I'm getting that program, I'm picking up weight and it's going to kind of help help pace me there. You're going to grab the ball. Do you guys squat and it

Speaker 3: Hello

Speaker 2: There you go. Maybe not into the computer. Nothing's going to come on back. That's okay. I guess I asked for that. Oh, come on back one this way. This way. Come over here. So normally, you know I wouldn't, I don't try to have these, both these guys down here at the same time, but I kind of wanted to show you it's, I mean, not having both my kids at the same time. It's unrealistic. Most people have more than one kid. So you, this is the chaos and you do your best to kind of embrace the chaos, I guess. All right. Most of our members have multiple children, so realistically you're showing what a day in our life is like. And this is a typical afternoon right after school. So that's a great, you know, just kicking a ball around, moving weight and getting some. All right, let's see. Now I'm going to try to do some teamwork stuff. See what happens. All right, let's see.

Speaker 2: Okay, Willie, hop inside there. Okay. Rolling up. Wait to see you pulling around and do you mind pulling mine So I like to use Lycra. Lycra is great. I like it, gives it, it squeezes back. So as you push it pushes back into awesome. I like to suspend it from the ceiling, but it doesn't have to be like that. For instance, I just got, see me dragging down there. I just got my little guy in the Lycra and it's just a sheet and it could be a bed sheet if you don't have a lycra Williy's getting a lot of deep squeeze and Reggie's getting a lot of heavyweight. Right. And if it's, you know, maybe I have two sheets and I'm pulling both and I'm just able to drag them back and forth. And you know, right now they're a low excited cause they're on TV and a TV and you know, they're on, they're on the spot.

Speaker 2: But normally this is a, this is a fun activity and it's usually the little guy when he's in that Lycra where he just kinda cal m right down. It's pretty cool. He's a kind of doing it now. cool. So that's, that's getting a lot of this is again, getting some tactile. I would, you know, if you can get their shoes off and if they're inside, like if you're doing some deep squeezes or even if I have the big heavy pillows and I'm squishing and wonder there, take their shirt, get, get as much skin contact with the fabric or the, the the texture as much as possible. That helps with getting that tactile input all right. good job hop there.

Speaker 2: Alright. another way to get, another way to get good proprioception is traction. Traction is just hanging from stuff. Let's see. There you go guys. Let's put Willie on that one. No, do not run into each other so well you'll see a lot of kids at the playground and kind of seek this one out. Cause when I'm pulling them hanging, I'm getting a lot of that input through my joints, my shoulder joints in my wrist, joints in my fingers. And it's a great way to get it. Yeah. Use your Lego hands. Yeah, if you can shoot them this way. So you'll see a lot of kids kind of hold the rod this way. If he can't shoot him that way, cause that then I'm working on some, some grip strength as well. Yes the C shape is more effective than the thumb over. Correct. I mean it's, so you're building that webspace grip, right. So a lot of our kids kind of have, this is why they have Mac.

Speaker 2: They're a little bit more safety conscious than this, but right. So if I, if I'm holding it this way, it's, it's it's not as hard. I can shoot my kids that way. Great. That's why I'll try to have ropes or something when they have to hang on like that vertical as opposed to horizontal. Makes sense. okay. So care. It's kind of come in low. I'm kinda reading their energy. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna move on to some ma oral motor stuff. You okay You need to take a minute. All right, so oral motor oral motor is an awesome, I'm going to have you guys back up a little bit. Willy. I'm going to have to take that down. Alright, can you guys see me alright So come on over here. What This one's yours.

Speaker 2: This one's yours. So this is just a jug of, of of soapy water and I have it in a five gallon water jug. I've used milk jug, it doesn't really matter or it could just be a bold and it's just soap and water or a motor is a great way to work to help with regulation. Adds up. They're getting a lot of input into their mouth. I'm working on pursed lip breathing, right I'm working on lip seal, I'm working on di formatic breathing. I'm working on strengthening my diaphragm works on core. I'm working on a string thing. My eyes, sorry, I'm sorry. I forgot. We're talking about a sensory diet. I start to dive deeper. So this is really good calm down activity when you hear that hum and so doing that. Hum. It's like inputs. So that's pretty cool. This is easy to make. You can make this, you know, like I said, out of a straw and a bowl of water. If you want to make it really cool, you can put it, put some food color in it and make it a volcano.

Speaker 1: Matt, what I'll probably get you to do is maybe later this week you can walk us through a quick demo video on how to build one for our kids.

Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. I mean it's pretty easy. I just feel a hole in this one. That's it. And I got some tubes. It's pretty easy. And I guess very content. Yeah. And you guys, can see it's kinda so, but some kids don't like this because it's hard. It might be low tone in their mouth or difficulty with breathing. I'll have kids cough after they do it cause it's so hard. The ones that and it's working their lungs a lot. motor planning. If they have difficulty motor planning, maybe you'll see kids drinking and that, you know, it's not the end of the world. They drink some soap, you know, they get, maybe they get a little sore tummy or get poops or something. But it's not going to hurt them. Right. So it will usually do it once and then kind of after that. So can I have you guys try, try something else Oh pardon me.

Speaker 1: They have a goal in mind.

Speaker 2: I have a goal in mind. Yeah. And also having their eyes fixed on an object, you know before cause kind of running around and kind of a good part of a sensory diet doing an activity is to make it like, if you can .

Speaker 2: make it like tracking an object cause then I'm working on concentration, I'm working on attention and that actually helps kinda help me regulate if I have an object to follow. Like if I'm picking up those big heavy balls and I'm throwing them at a target. All right. It's kind of an objective or maybe I'm throwing one ball to the next one, hand to the next, you know, a mountain corporating some bilateral coordination and just making it a little bit more athletic if you can, if not just getting that the weight is good anyway. All right. Good job boys. All right, great. I'm gonna have you do this one. Hey. Oh good job Willie here. So what, I'm going to have him sit and do some more , oral stuff. I'm going to have him sit on say a Lakikid Wiggle Cushion . There you go. You will you.

Speaker 2: So now when you sit on the, so having, you know, anytime I'm having him do something, you guys can sit. Anytime I'm having to do anything, I try to have them sit on like an unstable surface or something that gives them input. Okay. Cause again, they've been in school all day at school. You sit at a desk for a long time, you know, you're not getting a lot of physical impulse. So I'm working for that, you know, and I'm going to know, I know my kids, I know what sets them off and what doesn't. So that's goes back to like knowing your kid. So this is just some balloons I got from wall, a Fred Meyer. They're just really easy to blow up balloons. I like these. And again, more on oral motor. Well just do that one for now. Sure buddy. So again, if it's too hard, this, these are pretty easy as opposed to like a regular balloon. Regular balloon is a little tougher. I can be a balloon though, but if it's too hard then you know I have some, some pumpers. I got these free from some a Bosu ball I bought a long time ago. But I mean you can get these at the dollar store, but if they're just so clearly that he might be tired. So I'm going to switch it from his mouth to this. Okay, let me see. Bump it up.

Speaker 2: Okay, well if you don't want to hear it here, pop it up. And so I'm not doing oral motor, but again, I'm getting a lot of input to that squeezes. It's drawing their attention. It's fun, you know, it's a good way to kind of get their focus. This is like a fidget, it's the same principle as a fidget. I've got busy hands. Maybe I'm sitting in a bean bag or I'm going to closet a quiet closet or maybe even a swing is a good idea.

Speaker 2: awesome job boys. So you can kind of see the energy level coming down as you know, posted five minutes ago as you can all tell Reggie seems to be the active one in the family. Well it's kind of the opposite around opposite Reggie's the breeder. Reggie likes to sit and read books all over here, but they both pretty active boys. So I do my best to keep them. yeah. So stuff planned around the house. Do you, you're looking for ways to get input how much time we have Jenn We have about

Speaker 1: 12 minutes. If you want to let the boys go, we have some questions that I'd really like to deal with.

Speaker 2: All right. Hey boys, can you sit quietly Yeah. All right. Well you were to go see June. Yeah, sure. Alright. okay I hope some of that stuff helps.

Speaker 1: Okay. So what I want to get into is some of the questions that you guys have. Guys, if you have questions for me or Matt, please type them out right now and let us know. Also want to let you know that re appreciate when you tell your friends about us. When you let us know in the comments section, let us know how we can help you ask us questions. If you want to subscribe, just put the number five in our conversation and we will have you subscribe to our live shows. So let's get to some of these questions.

Speaker 2: I see one that just popped out. Can I, do you mind if I answer that one The so it says, from Beth, my son's therapist says he doesn't qualify for a sensory diet. We all qualify for a sensory diet. All of us take that we have, we have to take sensory breaks throughout the day. But you don't really have to qualify for us to build a sensory diet for a person. I mean that if you have sensory needs, which we all do, then you, you know, think about it. We, you know, there was a reason you go to the gym or you, you take a minute to yourself, will you, you know, maybe you have some quiet time alone. That's a sensory, that's part of your sensory diet. That's part of you taking your break when it comes to kids. Yet kids need to need certain times to move, to take breaks, to get, to, to swing, to jump, declined to run the blow bubbles to get messy. That's part of their sensory diet. So, you know, if, yeah, I mean you could start looking at your kid's sensory needs and start building yourself. If your therapist isn't on the same page,

Speaker 1: let's go ahead and message me and you and I will have some more conversation on how to build the diet, like with Matt suggestions and we'll actually look at ways to help your child. Because I, like Matt said, everyone needs a sensory diet. So let's work on you getting one for your child. Now I want to go up to Melinda Williams. She never looked at the why of things. And Matt, that was something you kind of got into earlier was why our kids come home and they need this. She said that her son always comes home from school, kicks off his shoes and head straight first trampoline. Now I know that he needs that wiggle out time.

Speaker 1: like you said Matt, there is always a a why to it. There's always the need for something. Some kids need more than others. And Melinda, I'm so happy that Matt could help you understand more on why your little guy needs that break.

Speaker 2: So yes, sensory needs. Like I said, we all need, we all have sensory needs. We all come home and after work or after school we need some sort of deep crease of input or increase of input. Right Me, I like to go to the gym. I make it helps me feel good. Otherwise my brain scrambled and I get cranky. That's a sensory need right When you're talking about, so sensory needs are a spectrum, right You know, all people are a spectrum and it's more multidimensional spectrum. It's not just a linear line. So when we, especially when I'm dealing with sensory difficulties and that includes people with autism on the autism spectrum and definitely special sensory processing disorder, then we need to be aware of of how they process sensory input. Okay. So sometimes noise, like we know the obvious ones. Noises can be too loud, vision sight can be too loud, but also they can have difficulty with movement and textures and, and how they, and that also includes, regulating their emotions internally or they don't know.

Speaker 2: They don't know how they, you know, if their stomach hurts or if they're short, if they're fast breathing or slow breathing. So just understand. They don't understand how their sensory system really works. I mean, as best you can as, as a kid. So, I would help that a lot through movement. Right So a lot of kids, you know, so your son comes home and jumps on the trampoline. Well that, that vertical bouncing, I actually had a transplant, I didn't bust it out, but that vertical bouncing, that kid's getting a ton of input. He's is activating his vestibular system, which end getting a lot of, deep pressure, which is tactile and also getting that internal, my, my muscles are using those joints are compressing, boom, boom. And that's helping his body, his mind to get organized. That was kind of a quick answer,

Speaker 1: right And I just want to say, we all know that not everyone has a gym. Like Matt. Matt has hooks in his ceiling for his hanging equipment. those of you in groups saw this week I had Melinda and I'm going to have her post it again later. Melinda actually bought a hammock, hangar, it's, I'm trying to explain this. It's a bar on stands and she can hang and actually use it in her house. I know Melinda, well Melinda, if you could post that in group later, but it's, she can use her swings indoors hooked up to this hammock hanging device. And if you have enough space that works, if you have a backyard where you don't have enough room for a full swing set, that also works well.

Speaker 7: So yeah, if you haven't, if you have the ability to hang a swing and that's something you see that your, it helps your kid. Yeah. Figure out a way to hook it up if you don't have a swing. And again, what is the swing doing It's giving, it's getting that input to the, to the vestibular system, which is in my head. So maybe you have a rocking chair or maybe your kids can jump up and down on the couch. Maybe they can do barrel rolls round around on the floor or maybe you drag them around like I was just showing in a sheet. You know, it's nice to have all this, this equipment with equipment costs money and if we'll have the ability and also, you know, a swing. I mean if you can see, I don't know if you can see it. That's a, that's a, that's a big deal to hook all this up. Right. That took a lot of time and, and, and hardware and know how to kind of hook all this up. But it doesn't have to be this, this is great. If you can get that, fantastic. If not, there's, you know, think about the principle of it is, is, is the vestibular input is, excuse me. Yeah. Mystical input is moving on my head. If kids like that deep squeeze. Okay, well, Oh, jumping crash on a beanbag and that's lot of tactiles.

Speaker 1: Then if you don't have a bean bag, couch cushions, big stuffed animals, like Matt showed everyone with the big Teddy bear, he threw that on the floor and they jumped into that. Anything soft pillows, just find something soft and kind of do what Matt didn't throw it all together and build a crash area for your kid. And that'll really get that out.

Speaker 7: And, and maybe, you know, this is, I'm kind of being specific today cause my kids just came from home from school, but maybe it's not a lot of active input. Maybe it's just like, I have a weighted blanket here. Maybe I just Chuck the kid in a corner and with some noise canceling headphones, which my son through out in the woods. But, you know, maybe, maybe it's, it's that and there's, there's less input and it's just no talking and it's a time, you know, a good 20, 30 minutes. Maybe it's an hour of just quiet time. They have a book, they have a, a fidget or something to kind of, I'm here. I'm just here. Give me present. Not a screen. Not yes sir. Not right now. Oh, with miss June. They'll go ahead. Yes. I just said no screens and I just said you'll watch the screen. We have a house guest related one of the last few is there. That's okay. That's a whole nother topic. I picked one, choose my battles. Right.

Speaker 1: You got to as a parent. Now Melissa Cox says that her son typically comes home after school and wants to bounce off the walls, but there are times he just needs his weighted lap pads and lots of compressions or hard hugs. Sensory, Jim and Matt, we just discussed that, that sometimes it's not that big movement. It's that tight, closed, quiet.

Speaker 2: yeah. yeah, I see indoor ideas for climbing. So climbing, it's, I, I think of that as kind of, it's, could be a couple things, but I, when I climb, I'm getting traction. I'm pulling. All right, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling that toll. I'm fighting gravity. So think of ways maybe you can make an hold on something. You drag them around on the floor or on a scooter board outside on the driveway or across the, the smooth kitchen floor or whatever. think or they pull something. So there's that traction piece that, that probe, I'm pulling, I'm pushing and also kids like to climb. Cause I, it's very visual. It's cool to climb up really high and see things. It gives me a different perspective and it makes this difficult things, you know, if I'm a kid I'm kind of down and everything's really giant and I S I don't get the whole picture, but when I'm up high I see it's all one. It's, it's all the parts. Make a hole and that is comfortable to me. So maybe maybe you, I don't know, I wouldn't say climb your roof, but I don't know. Put the kid on your shoulders or something. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's a combination of both or maybe, you know. Yeah,

Speaker 1: we use the ladder on her bunk bed set. She'll climb up and down the ladder.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bunk beds, man is, Oh, is, that's an easy one. There's lots of do with the bunk bed.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Trust me. I think she's figured out everything. You know how there's bars on the bunk beds on the top bunk. She'll lay on the bottom bunk and hook her toes in her hands and she'll just pull herself up. She really uses those bars to her advantage every day. Now, Maria, I know you wish you had a sensory gym in your home, but like Matt said, you can take household items and make your own sensory area and it's, it's simple. You can turn your living room into a sensory area after school time. Pull the couch cushions off the couch, throw them in a pile with pillows and have another area where yes, Matt had the weighted medicine balls. But if you don't, you could use, I've seen one lady say that she'd make her kids stack cans. Like large cans.

Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's a lot of ideas online as well. A good friend of mine, Alex, a Piccolo runs a, a company called century digest and he installs sensory gyms in the home. But if you go on his webpage, you'll see like a lot of people's living rooms is great examples of like what people do in their living rooms or their bedrooms with swings and stuff like that to make it little more sensory friendly sensory digests.

Speaker 1: I've actually seen a number of parents that have gotten rid of their children's bed and put a, because they needed that constant movement while sleeping. Sure. So let's go down to, we dealt with Beth

Speaker 1: Now bringing awareness is something that is passionate about. If you've seen a show with Matt, he's always very passionate about sensory awareness and getting this out and helping your children. I'm Jennifer Robinson. My daughter sends a L Sims a lot, but she likes to have things in her hands. Matt, you probably see that a lot.

Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so having things in your hands, right I mean, so maybe they, maybe they like to fidget. Maybe they just like to have that cause they're need some input. It can also be kind of a defense where if I'm walking around and I have an object in my hand, I don't need to engage the world with my palms and my hands, which are extremely sensitive. So I, you know, if I have this on my hand, I don't, I'm not going to accidentally touch something or brush up against something or, you know, this is kind of a defense. so, you know, it's an indicator that maybe it's a tactile thing, so maybe they, there's some tactile sensitivities there, which case using deep pressure's a good way to go about that. Or experimenting with different tactile play where, you know, trying to get the body, the skin exposed of your body to many, different textures as possible in a fun way. Keeping it in a positive, not forcing them to like touch the burlap, you know, it's not gonna that doesn't work, but doing, doing things to play and experimenting and you know, and so, yeah, so having things in your hands could be kind of a defense mechanism or

Speaker 1: that we have the marble maze folks where you can get that you push it through. Yep. And you can get that movement and there's focus, but there's also that movement and trying to get the marble through. Some kids will struggle at first because it is hard.

Speaker 1: So let's go to, my son likes to dig holes. He has dug a ditch about the length of a car and 12 inches deep. What else could he do I'm not liking the holes, honestly. let me tell you guys a funny story. So my brother in law and my sister in law have this gated area in their yard and for years they have considered putting in a koi pond. So what did they do in our children drive us nuts at family events. We send them out with shovels and they dig and my son is five 11 and the course of about two years, they have now dug the hole so that it almost completely is to my son's height, which is five 11 so yes, I understand the digging holes, we do it because it gets them out of our hair and it's something that all of the children can do together. They range from three to 15. Yeah, he's 15 so digging holes for me is not a big deal. Matt, do you have any ideas other than the digging holes

Speaker 7: I go back to what's he getting out of it So I mean, when I'm digging holes, I'm picking up all that weight. That's a lot of heavy work. He's probably seeking some, some input that way. Digging holes. I mean, I ever thought about that. It'd be great way to get some, some heavy work in a, you know, maybe it's also a tactile thing and maybe he likes the dirt getting on me. You know, he might be, you know, probably do it. I'm probably really good activity, you know. But at the same time, you don't want your yard to look like a bugs bunny. Just went through there. So, you know, looking for other ways for him to get to get that input, you know, so if he's seeking that, pick up that heavy work, try to incorporate some different kinds of heavy work throughout the day where he's picking up some weight or moving we or climbing or, or stacking chairs or you know, carry the milk jugs through the store, stuff like that. You know,

Speaker 1: lifting dog food. I've seen, I've seen someone actually lift 50 pounds of dog food because it is heavy enough for them cause they're bigger.

Speaker 7: Yeah. So yeah, I mean yeah, if you don't want to come up with activities in, in he can activities like gymnastics and wrestling. You did. So those are, those are the sports that I like to recommend cause if they can handle a group setting because they're getting so much input, it's not like soccer or baseball. We are just kind of out in space, but I'm not, I'm, I physically have to like resist. There's a lot of resistance involved. So think resistive activities, maybe let's work it out. Maybe you haven't, if you've got, add some weights off, some iron with them, see if that helps.

Speaker 1: Now Rose asks any help with running My son loves to run all day. He'll be running into the walls.

Speaker 7: So my, my experience with running, is I, I feel like a lot of times it's a, the kids just don't have a lot of body awareness. And so that's that. That's a lot. I, I, I, I use this analogy a lot, so think of if I'm driving and so every drive in a car and you go down the Hill real quick and your stomach goes woo. Right The feeling of weightlessness. So that's what not having a lot of body awareness might feel like a lot of the day. So I just, it could be that. So when I'm running, you know, maybe it's, I'm getting a lot of pounding to my legs or, I just, I'm impulsively that could be part of the impulsivity. you know, if it's, if it's getting in the way of things, try again. Try looking at some of the other sensory stuff that he either avoids orcs or to, if it's not in the way of things that, you know, run over, run away. It's a good activity. It's a good, it's a good exercise he's getting, he's getting a lot, a lot of input. but if it's, yeah, if it gets in the way of things, like if it's, if it's constant and he's taken off through the parking lot and stuff like that, maybe try giving him a weighted vest or doing some other sensory strategies. You know, he has an OT talk to them or anyone else working with the kid

Speaker 1: No, Amber, I actually know Amber and her daughter personally, her daughter and Riley are dear friends. how to handle a child with high pain tolerance and protect them from knowing it's dangerous. For example, her daughter started biting herself. Matt, that goes back to the oral. Does it not

Speaker 7: it, it, it could. when I'm, when I'm biting something, I'm getting a lot of input into my jaw. But also, you know, I, it goes back to, I would look at the antecedent as well. Is it, is it an, is it a stim Is it, is it something she's, is she anxious Is there anxiety causing that You know, and if that can be it as well, if I'm anxious, then that's when the stimming comes. If I'm uncomfortable, my body's stemming can happen. And biting is a form of, of stimming cause I'm, it's, it's it can be a way to kind of help reduce the anxiety. It didn't sound strange with biting myself. I'll just be kind of connect for a minute.

Speaker 1: Amber, come on over to my house. You know where I live. we've got tool re that we've been using for Riley cause she's been biting herself. Let's see if that helps Haven at all. No, she has another question. They've tried different types of redirecting to sensory behavior, but she's saying with things that aren't exactly productive. Instead it's more of what causes the meltdown.

Speaker 7: w I'm not sure what you mean by it's, Oh, is this the same,

Speaker 1: same, same mother Different question.

Speaker 7: we both tried different types of redirecting sensory. so

Speaker 1: I don't think there's really a sensory input that's not

Speaker 7: productive. Well, I mean it's, some things can make me feel uncomfortable. Like, you know, I don't like the F finger like nails on a chalkboard. That's that century. I tried to be gone. Nobody likes it.

Speaker 1: You said that in my husband cringed

Speaker 7: that. Yeah, that's a sensory issue, right What am I, I mean, racing with a pencil and it's scratch. Oh my God, it's scratches the paper. I don't want that. It makes me feel gross. I don't know why.

Speaker 1: Have anyone ever seen the videos on Facebook where they put the baby's feet on the grass for the first time and most of the babies flip their feet up and they're like, Nope, not doing this. That for them is a negative sensory input

Speaker 7: to help with the biting. you know, it's, that's, I, that'd be when I would have, somebody would have to work closely one-on-one and see, get, get some of the sensory information, you know. it's a definitely cause it's, you know, yeah. Why, why is she biting herself Hmm.

Speaker 1: Talk more later because I think there's more to it. I know your story. So we actually live in the same town. Let's get together and talk one day. Yes. Jason or Matt.

Speaker 7: Oh, I wasn't saying sorry if I didn't die, help with that one. But yeah, I mean, I, you know, part of it, it could, if it's during an anxiety, like if it's a reaction to something that's, that's anxiety. So helping finding ways to reduce that anxiety. So, you know, maybe it's reducing your language or giving her different sensory input throughout the day and being more proactive in that way. When, you know, it's like anybody else when we get stressed out, you know, we, I, when I get stressed out, I snap at my kids. It's not ideal. I don't want to do that, but it's like I can't help it, you know, or you know, we all do that. We get, we are, our level tolerance gets maxed out and we just boom. We all do oil, have our things. My friend bites his nails still there. Dad was nuts. Yup. I guess that's biting. Sure.

Speaker 1: now we have one last question from Jennifer. My daughter likes to sleep with her brother, but sometimes he likes to sleep alone, but she will go to wherever he goes to sleep with a way to blanket help her sleep without her brother. I went through this personally. It wasn't her brother, it was me and her father. She didn't get out of our bed until August of this year and she was seven. We tried to weight a blankets. We tried everything. It was just, it came with maturity.

Speaker 7: Yeah. How, I mean, yeah. Is she, you know, is she five Is she 14 How old is the kid, if you know, as a young age. Yeah. That could be something. It's nice to have someone to sleep next to. It's comforting. I'm at their brother's familiar. It could be just an emotional thing. or if it's a sensory thing, it could just, yeah. Again, it could be tribal. Yeah. You could try a weighted blanket, see if that works or some. So a like a also a Lycra, tubule like around the sh around the mattress and they squeeze in between there if the weight of blankets to watt, kids nine. yeah, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 9: Hey,

Speaker 7: if the, if the kids in that, if both parties are not sleeping then you know, try, I would try some of the weighted stuff and

Speaker 1: well, like Jason said, his sense of sleep was sleeps with him and he's nine. But I want, I want you to remember folks that I'm a huge advocate of co sleeping. My husband took some time to get onboard, but in a lot of countries co-sleeping or sleeping beside a family member is actually quite common.

Speaker 8: Okay.

Speaker 1: And they do it until the child is ready to move to their own space.

Speaker 7: So sorry, that's just made me think of my, my youngest son Willy was slept with as often. And that those were, well that was a long time. I slept on the couch cause I, I, I couldn't do it. my wife had no problem with it but I just, he's just wiggles like a, like a maniac. So, but what I started doing was swimming and before bedtime and that seemed to help him sleep a little deeper. So, just gentle rocking. We had some two bootlegger I'd swing them in that, that seemed to help. And then I don't do that anymore. I need, doesn't come into my bed and so once in a while he's sick.

Speaker 1: But like Jason says, in Asian countries especially, it is very common to co-sleep so you have that now. Unfortunately, Matt, we have gone way over like we always do for some reason when you're here.

Speaker 1: Melissa, I just wanted to address you real quick before we end the show. I co-sleep my nine year old sleeps with us in the same room, but he's neurotypical and still wants to sleep with me. And the babies go sleep at four and a half and the twins are two. Melissa, that must be one very active room. my sister co slept with all of her children and I remember there was a time where she had her now three year old and her now five-year-old, both in the bed from the time they were both babies. So she had a two year old and a newborn and that was extremely stressful. But again, it's not uncommon for a lot of families to co-sleep especially now. Debra, your grandson's issue does not seem to be sensory. It seems to be more of a control issue. So please PM me or posts in group and we will deal with that.

Speaker 7: Oh, does that, is that the

Speaker 1: bad wedding or wedding Yes.

Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean I look at everything as a sensory issue. I mean it definitely kids things that when things are out of control, kids are going to control the things that they can eating and you go to the restroom, those are, those are easy things. Like a lot of people hold that in and I don't know anything about your kid but it, start looking at, you know, okay. So, if, if there is a control issue, what is it What is out of control Why is the kid trying to control it Because he's not getting away, is it,

Speaker 1: or give him wood, giving him options. Do you want to do this or this

Speaker 7: And there's tons of behavior strategies, absolutely tons of behavior strategy. But you can also try some of the sensory strategies and see if those help, you know, so maybe it isn't a control. You know, it's a lot of times what seems like on purpose to us is, is not on purpose at all to kids. They just, they just react. It's not a conscious thought, right It could very well be, but, I, I always kinda look into the lenses. The kid is not making a choice. They, they, it is a, it is a can't, they can't do it. So that gives me the fixed mindset. I'm going to do my best to kind of look at the problem as to why they're doing that. So, yeah, you, you know, maybe you want to try some weighted blankets or or working on core strength is, is a way to kind of help with, cause you know, the pelvic floor is, is the muscle that and kind of all these muscles around our pelvis and our core kind of help a that holding in the urine and everything else. So strengthening and that can help or giving a lot of input. You know, I'll have a kid on a back and I'll put the yoga ball a topic called the Billy Buck and that's kinda getting light input to that area and they kind of help wake that up and to give more, awareness to that part of my body. Things like that, you know, so try some different sensory strategies that if it's still happening then, you know, maybe it is being

Speaker 1: now, I'm sorry guys, we have run way over. Don't worry if you have questions, I will be posting later in group and you can ask all the questions you want on that. thread. Matt will be back with us next week and it will be pure question and answers getting out all of these things and what not. So if you have not joined our Facebook group, Jason has just posted the link to our Facebook group. Please join there. I want to thank everyone for joining us. Matt, especially you, if you want to tell us about your gym.

Speaker 7: Sure. If you might go to my webpage and have a look at the, some of the things I'm doing. It's, it's sensory fitness.org. I do have a blog which I haven't written in a while, but that's ongoing. And I'm also announcing that I, I've begun a, some, it's called century foundation classes to purchase on Vimeo and it's, it's affordable. It's, it's, and it's, it's a series of classes to kind of get into the depth of, of, of, of century and what that means. And also a lot of the stuff that we were talking about, I've not activated it yet. I'm still in the process of editing. I'm terrible at the web piece of it. I don't know. Do I get someone else working for it I working on that, but yeah, it's coming out in a couple of weeks. I'm excited about it. Knock. I'll let her know when it's out and where to get it and how to do it.

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